The difference between the desgineer and engineer is the math. They both do the same thing except the engineer does the math.
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There is quite a difference between industrial design and design engineering. Industrial design is an applied art where the usability of products can be improved. Design engineering is a discipline that creates and transforms ideas to satisfy the requirements of a customer.
There may not be any science involved in engineering as it is a process of detailing based on available/validated science. engineering design is purely mathematical calculations and drawings as per scale after desdigning.
In engineering, the design to be used is the primary design. The secondary design is a backup in case the primary design is unusable for any reason.
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In Canada the difference between an engineering technician and an engineering technologist is a technologist has more training in Science, Mathematics, and is required to write a thesis.